Obama could be the worst president ever? Or the best? Let me know?
I’d like to know what you think. It is so obvious of all of the bad he has done, but some liberals look past this compelling evidence and accuse you of being a racist or right-winged. The DOW is as low as it has ever been in 12 years, it has almost fell in HALF since Obama has been elected. AIG just got another bailout, he used 1 MILLION dollars of taxpayer dollars to fly to Las Vegas to sign the "stimulus" package, so he would have a nice background instead of doing it in Washington. I mean all of the bad things he has done and he’s been in a little over a month! Can someone tell me something good he has done, citing your sources? I am here for an intelligent discussion, not you liberals who sit around and chant Obama all day and think he will save this economy. In Bush’s last year as president, he made stupid calls and did stupid things. However Obama is making these worse. Ronald Reagan once said :The government is not the solution to the economy, it is the problem of the economy" What he means is that the government needs to step back and let the people slowly work it out themselves. Let me know why you like or dislike Obama, and let me know where you got your info from. Thanks!
You say Bush spent billions on a war correct? Well Obama has spent over a trillion on what exactly? To fix the economy? Is that why the DOW is at a 12 year low? Because he is fixing the economy? Is that why America has record un-employment rates? I guess it is "fixing the economy"
In case you didn’t realize, tax cuts are a good thing to most people. However when Obama raises everyone’s taxes, not just people making 250,000 or more (It will happen, trust me) you will admire all Republicans before him for cutting taxes.
Sorry, mistake, he did sign it in Denver, however spent a million dollars to get out there. Closing Guantanomo is dumb, torture or not. What you don’t hear is that a suspect there was water-boarded and eventually gave up information to a terrorist who lived in New York and had full intentions and was capable of blowing up the Brooklyn Bridge.
I think torture is a good thing if it leads us to finding threats to our national security, yes!
And actually I’m a registered Independent. I voted for Kennedy, Clinton ( The first time) and many other Democrats throughout my life-span. However I did not vote for him, I do not think he is experienced.
And I do not think universal healthcare is a good idea either. And quoting Reagan, yes, it is a wonderful quote. Never before in a recession has the government been so active. They need to step back and let the people work it out. I am 68 years old, and I have been a history teacher at Vanderbilt University for over 15 years now, so yes, I do know my history.
To you talking about evolution? It is not an accepted scientific theory. There is lack of PROOF. Some atheist came up with a THEORY of it, still not fact. Like me, assuming you are a dumbass, I will need proof, even though I already read your answer in which you copied and pasted of the Zeitgeist movie page. That NWO crap, has been talked about for hundreds of years, and nothing has happened! Nothing!
I never brought religion in this conversation, but when someone said something about evolution I had to throw in my opinion. If evolution is true, then why haven’t humans transformed over the past 2000 years? Even just slightly?
And who runs YA!? I look at these answers and notice that all of the Republican answers have poor ratings, yet all of the liberals have 6 and 7 thumbs up. This is ridiculous.
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Chains We Can Be
29 Mar 2010
crazied4life
29 Mar 2010
he’ll be okay i guess.
Jessica Stone
29 Mar 2010
bush spent billions on a war that was going nowhere
obama is spending billions on trying to fix the economy
Eric
29 Mar 2010
Obama will be the worst, by far, that has ever stepped foot in the oval office. He took every thread this nation was founded upon and has destroyed it.
He has gone against every campaign promise, and passed the biggest pork bill that cost more than Bush spend during his entire time in office.
Obama is brought Chicago style dirty, corrupt politics to the White House, yet the libs just keep on drinkin’ the Kool Aid. Look at Jessica for example, who thinks Obama is trying to fix the economy. How is a trillion dollars worth of pork going to fix anything, unless you are a salt marsh mouse in California???
Aleferny
29 Mar 2010
I think Obama needs to be president for at least 6 months before we call him a success or a failure!!!
your non-sense about blaming him for the DOW is absurd!!!!! Obama is trying to do something different from the republican philosophy of tax cuts which has done nothing but put us in the shiiiitehole we are in now!!!!
Rob
29 Mar 2010
I love that Reagan quote.
Technically Obama is neither at this point, but in my opinion he’s doing a terrible job. He’s spent more money in the past few weeks than any human has spent in that amount of time in human history. His plans are flawed, his "bipartisan" intentions have led to more dividing in the U.S. than ever.
Historians and everyone will tell you only time will judge him, but all of his policies are either insane, or have been proven to fail before, like gun control, universal health care, etc.
I think he’s currently the worst president in human history judging on how he’s done so far. But in 4 years I doubt it will improve much…
That’s up for you to decide though.
Sadie
29 Mar 2010
he is gonna be terrible! he knows nothing about any of this when mccain was a damn POW come on now! seriously i personally think we will eventually be screwed w him in office. screw obama!!
Love Machine
29 Mar 2010
He signed the stimulus bill in Denver actually.
And he has nothing to do with the Dow, as it has been going down for months.
He closed Guantanamo Bay, and said that the US will not torture, which is good.
He has set new standards for alternative energy, always a good thing.
Has started to make plans to end Iraq War.
Is preparing to negotiate with Iran.
So overall, pretty good
V
29 Mar 2010
You are just like all the other republicans – looking at only short term goals instead of long term ones. You haven’t even given Obama’s stimulus package a chance to work! Bush was given 8 years to do something right before he was judged. And you give Obama only a few months! Blaming him for problems that started 8 years ago doesn’t accomplish anything. Watch – in a few years you will be eating your words – but of course you will never admit you were wrong.
Oh, and by closing Guantanamo Bay, he has set new standards for this country. Do you think torture is a good thing? Hmm….
And your Reagan quote isn’t necessarily correct. Many economists agree that Obama is doing the right thing. Do you think Obama just made up the stimulus package of the top of his head? Of course not – he has had top economists help him decide the best course. I would rather go with an expert economist’s plan than Reagan’s.
Edit: When i saw these comments of yours i had to respond:
"To you talking about evolution? It is not an accepted scientific theory. There is lack of PROOF. Some atheist came up with a THEORY of it, still not fact.";" If evolution is true, then why haven’t humans transformed over the past 2000 years? Even just slightly?"
Wow….You obviously have no idea what the theory of evolution is. For one, Evolution is an accepted scientific theory. And if you knew anything about evolution, you would know that it happens over a long period of time – which means longer than 2000 years. And it involves survival of the fittest, not "transformation". It states that animals over LONG periods of times develop traits in order to survive. I know this is off topic from your original question, but i had to respond to your comments. Learn some more about the theory itself before you completely dismiss it (this applies to the stimulus package and Obama as well)
Jane D
29 Mar 2010
he did just get in not too long ago, he has made some horrible moves so far, so without any certainty Id say the worst we will ever see.
crafty
29 Mar 2010
Did you know that there was over 2 trillion dollars missing from the defense budget on 9/10/01? Guess we kind of lost track of that in the wake of 9/11 didn’t we?
I guess I’d like to know how old you are and how much knowledge of history you have before I spend any time answering this question.
So far, I think Obama is doing exactly what he said he would do and that is why I voted for him. It is going to take awhile for things to correct themselves and begin to function again, considering the depth of lies and debt Obama inherited.
You kind of lost me there quoting Reagan as some sort of wise man, BTW, considering that this financial crisis goes back to Iran Contra – which you would know if you knew history.
Edit:
Well you have 8 years on me and apparently a history degree, so I guess I do not understand how you can not have a better understanding of how we got to this place in time. I do not teach at a University but I have been deeply involved in politics all my life. Most of the issues we are facing now can be directly traced back to the Reagan administration, which was basically run by Bush, Sr., Cheney & Rumsfeld – see a pattern here? It doesn’t take much research to see where the trend began.
The real problem here, as I see it, is that the conservatives do not understand that the world is changing and the solutions of the past do not work any longer.
On the health care issue, they do not seem to understand the huge burden health care costs are putting on American business–one of the many reasons why employers out source jobs. American productivity could go up substantially if big and small businesses did not have to come up with all that health care money. We are the only civilized nation on earth that doesn’t provide health care to its citizens, and we pay far more for health care than most other nations.
It will cost taxpayers over $1 trillion short-term if we don’t have universal health care and continue to subsidize the uninsured and continue to rely on private insurance companies – whose primary motivation is to collect premiums while avoiding paying for health care, and diversifying their investment portfolios. We must bite the bullet for universal health care, beginning with those states which already have some kind of a program (Hawaii comes to mind) and adapting them until everyone is covered.
Private insurance is a racket that moves money into the hands of multi-national investors. A large part of the high cost of buying an American-made car is healthcare insurance, yet statistics show that less than half of all insurance dollars paid in premiums are paid out as benefits!! This inflates the cost of health care and decreases the overall health of the population. It’s a completely crazy system.
History is not just what is in the history books.
Re-edit:
Since you seem to be open to discussion here somewhat, you said "To you talking about evolution? It is not an accepted scientific theory. There is lack of PROOF. Some atheist came up with a THEORY of it, still not fact."
Are you saying there is PROOF there is a God – that the God that America worships – that the vast majority of the world doesn’t – is proven by FACTS? If religion is what you base your belief system on, then this conversation is pretty well dead, but please do research what I suggested. i wish you the best, but having grown up conservative Christian and escaping, I learned long ago it is pointless to reason with people of "faith".
Nabil A
29 Mar 2010
Okay, I read some of the other asinine comments so I might as well post one. YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET OFF OF 44. DUDE HAS ONLY BEEN IN OFFICE FOR 6 F’N MONTHS, TRYING TO FIX THE MESS THAT WAS LEFT BY A DUMB ASS WHO F’D UP EVERYTHING THAT HE EVER TOUCHED (YEAH WHO WAS IT THAT GAVE A-ROID A QUARTER OF A BIL TO BALL). YOU PEOPLE NEED TO STOP AND THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY THE REPUBLICANS SPENT WITHOUT SHORING UP THE REVENUE FOR IT. 44 IS WELL EDUCATED, HE HAS GOTTEN THE RESPECT OF THE MILITARY AND HE HAS SMART PEOPLE ON HIS TEAM. WHY DON’T YOU COME BACK AFTER A YEAR AND RE-POST THIS QUESTION
Tracygav
29 Mar 2010
He’s ordered the closing of Guantanamo– in a year.
He’s started to fund birth control counseling and clinics overseas, ending the Bush years of abstinence stupidity.
He appointed someone who has a track record of success in Irish conflict to work in the Middle East. But he’s pretty much taken a stand on Hamas that Israel is happy with.
He’s reversed Bush orders and made policies about transparency in govt., but there’s some inconsistency on his positions on lobbyists.
He has laid out a Iraq withdraw plan.
So…I say he’s doing a pretty good job overall.
mesndblues
29 Mar 2010
Obama has one great asset, brainwashed meatheads who will follow him to the gates of hell..and as they file in and line the 9th circle of hell they will be chanting his name and singing "YES WE CAN, CAN, CAN, YES WE CAN!"
And this isn’t intended as a frivolous insult, it is Obama’s key to what he want’s to do,…change this country into a unrecognizable socialist country with Obama in control of each and every one of us.
stumpedII
29 Mar 2010
well .. good question.. only a retard would blame the state the country is in .. on a president who has been in office for 1 month..
smarter people.. would blame the guyy that was in office for the 8 years prior to this.. even .. go back further if you want.. in fact they have been destroying the country since regan ran up the debt on the credit card.. clinton betrayed us with nafta.. the agenda of destroying the usa.. to make the NEW WORLD ORDER.. that daddy bush promised us was coming.. (cus he had the inside info.. about who really rules this country)
well problem is.. they NEVER thought a black man could win.. so they let him run.. and HOLY COW.. he won.. .. this has totally derailed their plan to destroy this country.. .. clintons.. bush’s.. mcains.. no difference.. they all want to destroy this country.. and reform it.. under the ruling elite.. the american uniion.. canada mexico and what’s left of america.. without it’s constitution.. term limits.. rights.. etc..
but again.. SAVED BY OBAMA.. wow.. americans pretty much saw the writing on the wall.. so they chose obama.. something the new world order didnt plan on..
a lot of this is because of the youth in america.. they arent as stupid as rush limbauh.. daddy bush.. cia analyists etc.. think they are.. they can see the crap of fascism .. that the republican party masks.. and rejected it.. en mass.. so massive was the landslide.. that the bush/cia machine that rigged the last 2 president elections.. couldnt overcome that landslide.. so they had to walk away.. obama won..
now .. rejecting fascism.. the people want a change.. they want a peice of the pie again.. and a fair deal.. a shot at the american dream.. one that has been becomine more and more remote under the trickle down.. that has been concentrating wealth in this country.. shipping off usa industry.. for quick short term profits .. ceo compensation and severance packages.. ie sell your company to overseas.. make a ton of money on this years books.. (by wiping out all the jobs and factorys in the usa) .. get your massive compensation package.. cus of the one time spike in profits.. then walk away.. with a ruined.. barren landscape .. where the middle class used to be…
republican trade policy.. : trade american jobs and industry for ceo compensation and severance packages..
that’s what it’;s been.. that’s what’s been destroying the middle class.
some people see it as a national shame.. when we have so many billionairs walking around.. yet we have starving children.. homeless children.. uneducated children.. .. some people are pissed off that china and india each graduate 10x as many engineering students as america.. the country is going down the toilet.. due to GREED..
greed .. and fascism.. that the REPUBLICAN party has come to represent..
you realize that only 39% of americans believe in evolution? how dumb is that.. faith? faith? .. you WANT people to be stupid.. so you can fleece them..
well thank god for the youth.. who call BS on your propaganda and lies.. i got a news flash for you.. obama is the future.. the republican fascist party of greed war and cruelty.. is history.. its NOT going to get better .. it’s going to get WORSE.. for the fascists..
we dont want nazi’s here.. not in america.. we dont want to be part of mexico and canada.. ruled by one world govt… take your treason and choke on it..
republicans think that govt cannot profit.. cant do anything right. that’s jsut misinformation and lies.. look at hoover dam.. cost impossible amount of money.. but the govt INVESTED anyway.. and now for decades .. the dam has been producing wealth for america.. repaying it’s costs 1000 fold.. just like wind farms will for america.. sure a wind generator costs 1000x more than a gallon of gas.. but guess what.. after 1000 gallons of gas.. the energy is FREE .. free for 1000 years..
so take exxon mobile.. and other non renewable dirty energy corporations that the republicans spew the lies for.. and have them go somewhere else.. america wont need their corruption.. monopolys .. and lies anymore.
the future is coming.. and the republicans vision is one of a one world fascist state.. where everyone is a slave to the world corporation.. serving the elite managers …
democrats view is a view where much of our needs are provided for free.. at little to no cost.. (hoover dam produces near free electricity it doesnt "cost" anything) so too windfarms could result in free electricity for all americans.. and american business.. forever.. WHAT WOULD THAT DO TO THE ECONOMY?
contrast that to the 4 trillion bush pissed away on iraq mobile oil war..
iraq war was for one reason.. to keep oil prices high.. keep iraq oil off the market.. so the oil boys could rape us at the pumps.. and they did.
now 4 trillion dollars at 100,000,000 taxpayers.. woudl be 40,000 each.. MORE Than enough money to build enough wind farms to provide

We all saw this coming by a lot of people chose to ignore it. All people saw was, "change" and "hope." For whom? Was Obama supposed to give everyone jobs? I thought that was the responsibility of the individual.
Obama said he wasn’t going to pander special interest groups. And that’s exactly what he did. The only ones he’s not pandering to are the ones he disagrees with, but even then he’s in the tank with them, giving billions in (our) stimulus money.
Let these banks fail and the car companies file for bankruptcy. Both will then have to restructure and rethink the way they do business. If we keep propping them up, they won’t learn anything and may collapse anyway.
Never mind that "we’ll get the money back" that’s BS too and we all know everything Obama is doing is a con job. Slipping bills in there for "family planning"– for other countries. Now we have "global warming" taxes in the future. Yeah right, it was 16 degrees for a high today.
Hang on to your wallets folks, the Democrats are going to everything they can to take it from you and give to the lazy and those with a sense of entitlement they are owed even if they did nothing.
We also face the constant onslaught of people who hate us, and our Government does nothing to stop the flood of illegal immigrants which includes Muslim bomb throwers who would love to see the white man swimming in his own blood while chanting Allahu Akbar in a daze of almost sexual Ecstasy.
God bless America, we’re gonna need it.